Recommended hardware

[Ian]

Had some people recently contact me about supermodel running slow on their hardware ..
And they are running 10+ year old hardware. You wouldn't own a phone that old, it would be verging on useless lol. I know PC hardware can be expensive but you don't need to spend a fortune to get reasonable performance.

Currently we don't have anything resembling minimum system requirements for supermodel.

I'm using a i7 3.4 ghz cpu, and a gtx 960. GTX 960 was a lower end card when I bought it but they are very cheap now. £30-40 off ebay and performance is great in supermodel. You should comfortably be able to run 2 instances at the same time at 1080p.

I know the latest intel GPUs (laptop) should also give great performance with supermodel, with the triangle renderer, at least. I don't know how well they will run with quad rendering.

I'd recommend against any AMD gpu, because the drivers suck and performance is downright horrible. I was testing with a WX 7100 pro card I think which is a highish end gpu, and performance was a nightmare. Where as on a cheap integrated intel you can bust out 60fps. Right now AMD are just not even remotely competitive at all which is a shame. Older driver versions apparently work better, but I would never recommend people downgrade their drivers just to use 1 app. It doesn't make sense.

Anyway, I'd be interested to know what FPS people get, especially with lower end h/w. We might be able to establish something of a minimum system requirements

[zuppa_di_pesce]

Hay Ian, do you believe me? I was wondering same questions in theese days!
I was thinking to open a thread on this forum, where to post all of our "benchmarks"!!!

So... I think I can start by myself! When I'll come back home, I'll post in this thread my specs.

Would be nice to "format" the results as:
* CPU model [insert here if: stock or OverClocked]
* RAM
* GPU model
* OperativeSystem [insert here if: 32bit or 64bit]
* SuperModel3 release version
* SuperModel3 OperativeSystem type [insert here if: Windows native or Linux native or Linux via WINE (so, Windows version) or macOS]
* GAME (provided as romname.zip)
* FPS (provided by -show-fps)
* Standardized resolution is 1920x1080 (with -window)
* Tell if -new3d or -legacy3d
* post commandline start options

What do yout hink?
Would be nice to build up such a "databse" (sort of)!

[Ian]

yeah sounds reasonable
need to know if quad rendering is on, because that can make a big difference to the fps

[Bart]

This will be interesting to see! I'm also quite surprised at the older hardware being used. Is this primarily an issue outside of the US and UK? The only people I know operating 5-10 year old hardware are non-gamers like my father.

Also, just a note: it's Supermodel, capital 'S', lowercase 'm', no '3'. Not "SuperModel" or "SuperModel3"

[ferrarifan]

I have a I5-4670K at 3.4 ghz with a GTX 1060 3 GB. Mind you I have a 7-year-old Haswell CPU which came out in 2013 so it gets the job done I know the 4th gen i5 might sound obsolete but pretty much all the rest of the arcade emulators that I run including Supermodel and Demul(Only for Arcade purposes only) running flawlessly on my system

I'm very satisfied with it's results. Very good CPU especially for a great affordable price you can buy it used today

[zuppa_di_pesce]

Also, just a note: it's Supermodel, capital 'S', lowercase 'm', no '3'. Not "SuperModel" or "SuperModel3"

[michaelg1234]

I have a AMD ryzen 5/Vega8 /R560X Hybrid laptop and i get 35-50fps in Scud race with triangle rendering, quad rendering is slow.

[SegaLover2020]

I7 7700hq, 16GB, intel 630 + GTX1050

The intel 630 was a surprise with updated drivers and better opengl support. I can run every game at full speed even with just 2,6ghz maximum processor speed. This, obviously, with triangles because switching to quads brings a lot of lag.

[zuppa_di_pesce]

• CPU> AMD Ryzen 7 1700 [stock]
• RAM> 2*8G DDR4-2667
• GPU> GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER
• OS> ArchLinux (5.8.8-arch1-1)
• Supermodel release> svn-r823 (64bit)
• Supermodel version> Linux native
• GAME> srally2.zip
• 1080p> yes
• FPS (1080p)> 62
• 2160p> yes
• FPS (2160p)> 62
• new3d> yes
• quad-rendering> yes

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penGL information:

  Vendor                   : NVIDIA Corporation
  Renderer                 : GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER/PCIe/SSE2
  Version                  : 4.6.0 NVIDIA 450.66
  Shading Language Version : 4.60 NVIDIA
  Maximum Vertex Array Size: 1048576 vertices
  Maximum Texture Size     : 32768 texels
  Maximum Vertex Attributes: 16
  Maximum Vertex Uniforms  : 4096
  Maximum Texture Img Units: 32

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./supermodel -ppc-frequency=100 -gpu-multi-threaded -res=1920,1080 -fullscreen -wide-screen -stretch -no-vsync -new3d -quad-rendering roms/srally2.zip

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supermodel: ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=71b788c1c7814b757c9a73b5ff2657e2c0979200, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, stripped


[Bart]

Would be very interesting to disable driver throttling and run un-throttled to see what frame rate it hits. Some systems can hit 60 without any headroom. For example, my laptop can run Supermodel at 800x600 at 60FPS but if I increase the resolution to 1024x768, it drops to 50 or below.