prototype games and littles changes (games.xml)

[Ian]

I made a mistake
I meant to say star wars uses inverted controls, not the lost world

Star wars uses a joy stick, and it's really common for flight games to use inverted controls

[Spindizzi]

Aaaah ok,
for information, in swtrilgy games, the controls can be inverted (or not) in service menu setting the arcade cabinet type (deluxe cab, normal cab etc...)
I can't find this option in lost world

[Joaquim Gonçalves]

Thanks it help a little, but i still need a .dat or a .xml to read in my clrmamepro, because it help a lot more my organized set. Please if you can, or ask mame devs to change is database in the next version. As we know mame today is open source now. Merci.

[Bart]

Hey Spindizzi: I’ve fixed some things and will send you an email within the next 24 hours.

[MrThunderwing]

Hi
add mpegboard to srally2x
you must add epr-20641.2, mpr-20637.57, mpr-20637.58, mpr-20637.59, mpr-20637.60 from srally2 rom set

How do you figure this stuff out dude???

[Bart]

Hi
add mpegboard to srally2x
you must add epr-20641.2, mpr-20637.57, mpr-20637.58, mpr-20637.59, mpr-20637.60 from srally2 rom set

How do you figure this stuff out dude???

Open up Games.xml -- it should be pretty self-descriptive. You'll notice different ROM sections. Typically, different revisions of a game will share the same MPEG ROMs, so if they're missing, you just need to add the appropriate lines of XML to the game definition.

[MrThunderwing]

Ah, more straightforward than I thought then - I thought this involved some kind of painstaking detective work by Spindizzi figuring out which bits of which ROM you needed to swap out between the games to get one of the other versions working.

[doteater]

i am using r775 and the games.xml file it came with

add ffb to dirtdvls, dirtdvlsa, dirtdvlsj, dirtdvlsg, eca, ecap, ecau, ecaj
they use the same rom from scud race, so you need to update and add "epr-19338a.bin" inside your rom set (take it from scud race rom set for example)

only tried doing that for eca so far and no issues at all , worked like a charm

trying to add ffb to lemans24
normally it uses "epr-18261.ic9" (can be found in stcc rom set for example) from model 2 driveboard hardware but not working at this time (troubles with ffb commands)
but for test purpose because this is not the real emulation, you can easily replace this rom by "epr-19338a.bin" from scud race
you need to update and add "epr-18261.ic9" and/or "epr-19338a.bin" inside your rom set and edit games.xml to suit your choice
I suspect M2 driveboard hardware to be the first revision of the M3 drive board hardware (same irq, same memory mapping/address, same commands ....), this is why we can easily switch them in Supermodel

if i correctly understood what you meant,i can either use the epr-19338a.bin file from scud or the epr-18261.ic9 from sega touring..right ?
i added the file from scud again but it doesn't work and i suspect the games.xml file is to blame
it is clearly trying to load different roms from different games (?!)
this is what the error.log file says :

Opened lemans24.zip.
'epr-21065a.20' (CRC32 0x3223db1a) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21041.33' (CRC32 0x8f1ac988) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21028.6' (CRC32 0xdb11f50a) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21027.5' (CRC32 0x74e1496a) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21026.4' (CRC32 0xf4937e3f) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21043.35' (CRC32 0x707015c8) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21042.34' (CRC32 0x1dab621d) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21035.27' (CRC32 0x618b7d6a) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21036.28' (CRC32 0x0e665bb2) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21029.7' (CRC32 0x89867d8a) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21030.8' (CRC32 0xf8e51bec) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21024.2' (CRC32 0xede859b0) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21023.1' (CRC32 0x932a3724) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'epr-21062a.17' (CRC32 0x64b55254) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21040.32' (CRC32 0xb550c229) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21039.31' (CRC32 0x61407b07) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21038.30' (CRC32 0x9b59d2c2) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'epr-21064a.19' (CRC32 0x2a01f9ad) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'epr-21063a.18' (CRC32 0x6ab7eb32) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21037.29' (CRC32 0x90b98493) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21034.26' (CRC32 0xacba5ca6) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21025.3' (CRC32 0x6591c66e) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21044.36' (CRC32 0x776f9580) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21045.37' (CRC32 0xa28ad02f) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21046.38' (CRC32 0x05c995ae) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21047.39' (CRC32 0x06b7826f) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21048.40' (CRC32 0x96849974) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21049.41' (CRC32 0x91e8161a) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'epr-21066.21' (CRC32 0xf7ed2582) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21031.22' (CRC32 0x32f6b23a) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21033.24' (CRC32 0x253d3c70) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
'mpr-21032.23' (CRC32 0x3d3ff407) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'dirtdvls'.
Ignoring game 'dirtdvls' in 'lemans24.zip' because it is missing files.
'mpr-22877.8' (CRC32 0xe53b8764) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22874.5' (CRC32 0x5e990497) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22857.29' (CRC32 0x44e6ce2b) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22884.15' (CRC32 0x254c3b63) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22883.14' (CRC32 0x86d90148) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22854.26' (CRC32 0x97a23d16) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'epr-22903.17' (CRC32 0x53882217) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22858.30' (CRC32 0x0af40aae) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22873.4' (CRC32 0xdd406330) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22870.1' (CRC32 0x52054043) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22875.6' (CRC32 0x1bb5c018) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22856.28' (CRC32 0x9c0d1d1b) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22871.2' (CRC32 0xcf5bb5b5) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22876.7' (CRC32 0xa7561249) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22859.31' (CRC32 0xc64f0158) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'epr-22906.20' (CRC32 0x7f6426fc) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22855.27' (CRC32 0x7249cdc9) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'epr-22905.19' (CRC32 0x9755dd8c) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'epr-22904.18' (CRC32 0x0ff828a8) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22882.13' (CRC32 0xb161416f) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22885.16' (CRC32 0x3525b46d) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22872.3' (CRC32 0x4fde63a1) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22860.32' (CRC32 0x053af14b) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22861.33' (CRC32 0xd26343da) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22862.34' (CRC32 0x38347c14) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22863.35' (CRC32 0x28b558e6) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22864.36' (CRC32 0x31ed02f6) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22865.37' (CRC32 0x3e3a211a) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22866.38' (CRC32 0xa863a3c8) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22867.39' (CRC32 0x1ce6c7b2) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22868.40' (CRC32 0x2db40cf8) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22869.41' (CRC32 0xc6d62634) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'epr-22886.21' (CRC32 0x374ec1c6) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22887.22' (CRC32 0x7d04a867) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22889.24' (CRC32 0x4f9ba45d) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22888.23' (CRC32 0x018fcf22) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
'mpr-22890.25' (CRC32 0xb638bd7c) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'eca'.
Ignoring game 'eca' in 'lemans24.zip' because it is missing files.
'epr-18261.bin' (CRC32 0x0c7fac58) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'lemans24'.
Ignoring game 'lemans24' in 'lemans24.zip' because it is missing files.
'epr-19734.20' (CRC32 0xbe897336) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19675.29' (CRC32 0xff113396) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19663.06' (CRC32 0xf6af1ca4) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19662.05' (CRC32 0x3c700eff) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19661.04' (CRC32 0x8e3fd241) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19676.30' (CRC32 0xfd852ead) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19677.31' (CRC32 0xc6ac0347) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19668.11' (CRC32 0x0b4dd8d5) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19667.10' (CRC32 0xa8676799) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19664.07' (CRC32 0xb9d11294) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19665.08' (CRC32 0xf97c78f9) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19659.02' (CRC32 0xc47e7002) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19658.01' (CRC32 0xd523235c) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'epr-19731.17' (CRC32 0x3ee6447e) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19674.28' (CRC32 0xc7b0f98c) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19672.26' (CRC32 0x588c29fd) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19673.27' (CRC32 0x156abaa9) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'epr-19733.19' (CRC32 0x6565e29a) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'epr-19732.18' (CRC32 0x23e864bb) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19666.09' (CRC32 0xb53dc97f) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19669.12' (CRC32 0xcdc43c61) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19660.03' (CRC32 0xd999c935) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19678.32' (CRC32 0xb8819cfe) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19679.33' (CRC32 0xe126c3e3) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19680.34' (CRC32 0x00ea5cef) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19681.35' (CRC32 0xc949325f) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19682.36' (CRC32 0xce5ca065) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19683.37' (CRC32 0xe5856419) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19684.38' (CRC32 0x56f6ec97) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19685.39' (CRC32 0x42b49304) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19686.40' (CRC32 0x84eed592) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19687.41' (CRC32 0x776ce694) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'epr-19692.21' (CRC32 0xa94f5521) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19670.22' (CRC32 0xbd31cc06) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19671.24' (CRC32 0x8e8526ab) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'epr-19612.2' (CRC32 0x13978fd4) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19603.57' (CRC32 0xb1b1765f) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19604.58' (CRC32 0x6ac85b49) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19605.59' (CRC32 0xbec891eb) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
'mpr-19606.60' (CRC32 0xadad46b2) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'scud'.
Ignoring game 'scud' in 'lemans24.zip' because it is missing files.
Multiple games found in 'lemans24.zip' (dirtdvlsa, dirtdvlsg, dirtdvlsj, ecaj, ecap, ecau). Loading 'dirtdvlsa'.

etc

[Spindizzi]

hello,

take lemans24 rom set
add epr-18261.bin from stcc model 2
add epr-19338a.bin from scud race model 3
you should have your rom set like this:

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lemans24.zip
1996-12-24 23:32        524288        157190  2842BB87  epr-19887.17
1996-12-24 23:32        524288         86454  800D763D  epr-19888.18
1996-12-24 23:32        524288        156327  D1F7E44C  epr-19889.19
1996-12-24 23:32        524288         86848  9C16C3CC  epr-19890.20
1996-12-24 23:32        524288        175142  C3ECD448  epr-19891.21
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304       1102972  82C9FCFC  mpr-19857.01
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304        730169  993FA656  mpr-19858.02
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304       1109964  15906869  mpr-19859.03
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304        737534  19A1DDC7  mpr-19860.04
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304         87218  6DDF21B3  mpr-19861.05
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304         85688  B0F69AE4  mpr-19862.06
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304         84899  2B2619D0  mpr-19863.07
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304         85784  C7BAAB2B  mpr-19864.08
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304       1167712  B2749D2B  mpr-19865.09
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304       1167346  EDE5FC78  mpr-19866.10
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304       1167824  AE610FC5  mpr-19867.11
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304       1165784  3C43D64F  mpr-19868.12
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304       2906117  EA1EF1CC  mpr-19869.22
1996-12-24 23:32       4194304       2967996  49C70296  mpr-19870.24
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1285949  5168E02B  mpr-19871.26
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1157603  9E65FC06  mpr-19872.27
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1284404  0B15D7AB  mpr-19873.28
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1157436  6A28EC89  mpr-19874.29
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1286258  A03E1173  mpr-19875.30
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1157440  C93BB036  mpr-19876.31
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1284647  B1E3DF56  mpr-19877.32
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1156955  A2ACC111  mpr-19878.33
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1285445  90C1553F  mpr-19879.34
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1157690  42504E63  mpr-19880.35
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1285006  D06985CF  mpr-19881.36
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1158399  A86F2E2F  mpr-19882.37
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1286618  12895D6E  mpr-19883.38
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1157844  711EEBFB  mpr-19884.39
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1285208  D1AE5473  mpr-19885.40
1996-12-24 23:32       2097152       1157566  278AAE0B  mpr-19886.41
1996-12-24 22:32         65536          3120  0C7FAC58  epr-18261.bin
1996-12-24 23:32         65536          8147  C9FAC464  epr-19338a.bin
#
# Total                   Size        Packed            Files
#                     95027200      34784703            37


check if your games.xml is up to date

edit your games.xml in lemans24 part
(warning, you must respect xml format)

for use normal ffb rom (stcc model2) (not working)
edit like this:

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      <!-- Spindizzi notes : original Driveboard from model2 hardware -->
      <!-- Not working ATM - Commands don't correspond -->
      <region name="driveboard_program" stride="1" chunk_size="1">
        <file offset="0" name="epr-18261.bin" crc32="0x0C7FAC58" />
      <!-- Driveboard program from scud - Can be a replacement from original model2 z80 program -->
      <!-- I think Model3 driveboard hardware acts exactly like Model2 driveboard hardware (same irq, same memory mapping, same commands etc...)  -->
      <!-- This is why we can exchange micro program (rom) in Supermodel to have ffb in lemans24 -->
      <!-- Simply comment and uncomment - for test purpose only -->
      <!--
        <file offset="0" name="epr-19338a.bin" crc32="0xC9FAC464" />
      -->
      </region>


or for use with scud race ffb file
edit like this:

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      <!-- Spindizzi notes : original Driveboard from model2 hardware -->
      <!-- Not working ATM - Commands don't correspond -->
      <region name="driveboard_program" stride="1" chunk_size="1">
        <!--<file offset="0" name="epr-18261.bin" crc32="0x0C7FAC58" />-->
      <!-- Driveboard program from scud - Can be a replacement from original model2 z80 program -->
      <!-- I think Model3 driveboard hardware acts exactly like Model2 driveboard hardware (same irq, same memory mapping, same commands etc...)  -->
      <!-- This is why we can exchange micro program (rom) in Supermodel to have ffb in lemans24 -->
      <!-- Simply comment and uncomment - for test purpose only -->
     
        <file offset="0" name="epr-19338a.bin" crc32="0xC9FAC464" />
     
      </region>


the error log you have clearly show there is something wrong with your set (file not found)

hope this help

[doteater]

hello spin

well,i know for sure that my lemans rom is fine because it is the one i have been using for months and worked until i updated supermodel from 755 to 775
also,if i try to use the "old" rom in 775,the system clearly complains about one missing file only and nothing else

Opened lemans24.zip.
'epr-18261.bin' (CRC32 0x0c7fac58) not found in 'lemans24.zip' for game 'lemans24'.
Ignoring game 'lemans24' in 'lemans24.zip' because it is missing files.
No complete Model 3 games found in 'lemans24.zip'.

i tried adding the file from scud and those were the errors i was getting (the ones i mentioned in my previous post)
weird,right ?
i also asked for clarification about your original message,because it wasn't 100% clear (to me at least) if only one extra file was needed (either scud or touring) or both
still a little confusing if i'm being honest because you added both files to the lemans zip but then it seems like you're going to be using only one (depending on how you edit the manifest)

anyway,i wanted to try again by adding the touring file (and because the error message is complaining about epr-18261.bin after all) but..surprise,the stcc zip i found doesn't include that file
i will now look for the latest mame roms,i guess it was probably changed / added recently