MASTERS OF DRIVING

[Abelardator2]

Hola Abe! I am in awe of the way you can just so casually get a 1st place on Scud Race's Advanced stage on your first attempt.

Using the original cabinet helps a lot, I also already have a lot of practice.

[fefor]

great driving - learning a lot from those videos.
care to share you g29 settings for degrees/sensitivity?
struggling with handling / drift control... snow seems impossible to me.

thanks in advance

Thanks! I'm glad to know they helped someone, I also watched tons of other players videos (some of them are in this forum too ) and I learned from them.

My settings for the g29 when playing on Supermodel and other racing games are: 100% sensitivity, 270 degrees, 10% centering spring strength. I don't use forcefeedback for this emulator. Also there were times where I tried Sega Rally 2 with 180 degrees to test something and it felt easier because you can easily go from a full steer to the left to a full steer to the right...

The only game where I use different settings for the wheel is Daytona USA (1993), for that one I use 400 degrees and force feedback enabled, it behaves very different from this emulator.

I suggest creating a Save State at the beginning of each stage in the championship mode so you can practice them better than what the practice mode has to offer, try to aim for these rankings if you want to achieve 1st place:

Desert: 11th
Mountain: 6th
Snow: 5th
The two laps in Riviera should be enough to pass 4 cars and get 1st place.

My final tips are:

1) I feel the Lancia Stratos might be the easiest car to get a 1st place with, but the Peugeot is the fastest car in the game and its not hard to drive, it has a lot of grip. Use any car you like the most though, they all behave differently but they are all good.
2) You should totally use the handbrake on the sharp hairpin on the Snow stage, otherwise if you only use your breaks you might slide out of the track and be slow, this is also the only instance in the game where I use the handbrake button.
3) Only use break pedal for the hairpins: release gas and step on break and do a full turn then step on gas again, every other turn in the game can be done at full throttle and just releasing and tapping the gas when necessary (you may notice in the video there are times the car's exhaust does explosions that you can see and hear, those are the times I'm tapping the gas pedal)
4) I also recommend playing on Manual Transmission which is faster and only use 1st 3rd and 4th gear, you don't even need to use 2nd gear and I'll explain why:
On starts don't step on the gas until half a second before you hear GO!, switch from 1st gear to 3rd gear at around 50 kmh, this happens very fast right after you start, then switch to 4th at around 190 kmh, then play the entire stage while on 4th gear and only go down to 3rd gear when you break during hairpins.
Although if you wanna play on Automatic Transmission I can confirm the game is 100% winnable for 1st place so if you don't really like Manual you don't need to force yourself to play that way

[antonioneves]

great driving - learning a lot from those videos.
care to share you g29 settings for degrees/sensitivity?
struggling with handling / drift control... snow seems impossible to me.

thanks in advance

Thanks! I'm glad to know they helped someone, I also watched tons of other players videos (some of them are in this forum too ) and I learned from them.

My settings for the g29 when playing on Supermodel and other racing games are: 100% sensitivity, 270 degrees, 10% centering spring strength. I don't use forcefeedback for this emulator. Also there were times where I tried Sega Rally 2 with 180 degrees to test something and it felt easier because you can easily go from a full steer to the left to a full steer to the right...

The only game where I use different settings for the wheel is Daytona USA (1993), for that one I use 400 degrees and force feedback enabled, it behaves very different from this emulator.

I suggest creating a Save State at the beginning of each stage in the championship mode so you can practice them better than what the practice mode has to offer, try to aim for these rankings if you want to achieve 1st place:

Desert: 11th
Mountain: 6th
Snow: 5th
The two laps in Riviera should be enough to pass 4 cars and get 1st place.

My final tips are:

1) I feel the Lancia Stratos might be the easiest car to get a 1st place with, but the Peugeot is the fastest car in the game and its not hard to drive, it has a lot of grip. Use any car you like the most though, they all behave differently but they are all good.
2) You should totally use the handbrake on the sharp hairpin on the Snow stage, otherwise if you only use your breaks you might slide out of the track and be slow, this is also the only instance in the game where I use the handbrake button.
3) Only use break pedal for the hairpins: release gas and step on break and do a full turn then step on gas again, every other turn in the game can be done at full throttle and just releasing and tapping the gas when necessary (you may notice in the video there are times the car's exhaust does explosions that you can see and hear, those are the times I'm tapping the gas pedal)
4) I also recommend playing on Manual Transmission which is faster and only use 1st 3rd and 4th gear, you don't even need to use 2nd gear and I'll explain why:
On starts don't step on the gas until half a second before you hear GO!, switch from 1st gear to 3rd gear at around 50 kmh, this happens very fast right after you start, then switch to 4th at around 190 kmh, then play the entire stage while on 4th gear and only go down to 3rd gear when you break during hairpins.
Although if you wanna play on Automatic Transmission I can confirm the game is 100% winnable for 1st place so if you don't really like Manual you don't need to force yourself to play that way

Thanks very much. Ive been practicing and your tips helped a lot! Still got a long way to go... but def improving.

[fefor]

Coming back to grinding for Time Attack after a 3 month hiatus of not playing any racing game , this time I went back to the first Daytona USA game and decided to learn the technique where you enter the pits without triggering the pit stop sequence.

You gotta enter from the right side of the road where there is a black line but the tricky part is that most of the time you'll end up touching the grass or being a little off in the angle and it'll trigger the sequence... after learning how to enter the pits consistently you gotta learn how to do the exit drift which to me was the hardest challenge I've done on this game as of today it just sucks that there are no tutorials for this and you just gotta learn on your own or watching others and trying to understand what they are doing differently. (If anyone has any tips on how to improve that drift it would be greatly appreciated)

Anyways here's the video of me getting my new record on Beginner Time Attack mode which beats my Race mode PB by 5 seconds!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmuJiDQUPtY

Also I don't think I've posted this link before but I made a playlist for my current best replays in Daytona/Sega Rally to keep track of my progress: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8TF1rghAAPIMsznnCBoIHTKWZUQv9Wuv

Thanks very much. Ive been practicing and your tips helped a lot! Still got a long way to go... but def improving.

No problem! please let me know if you manage to achieve your goal

[MrThunderwing]

Daytona USA 2 on Supermodel with 2nd monitor acting as livecam
https://youtu.be/eLRSvgC2ix0

[MrThunderwing]

A bit more dual screen Daytona USA 2, this time using the Hornet Classic.
https://youtu.be/9pxDUmdcMxE

[fefor]

Well I think I'm finally done with Daytona USA, I wanted to do a decent Time Attack run in the Expert course so I've been practicing and learning new strats for the drifts on it these past 2 weeks or so...

Back in november my record was 3'25'92, then lowered it to 3'22'48 after I learned a different way to take one corner, then got to 3'21 and decided that my goal was to get sub 3'20 which took a lot of time and thats when I had to change most of my strats... got 3'18, then wanted to push myself to my limits and got 3'17, 3'16, 3'15, and finally after several chokes that would finish in 3'14"something:

Daytona USA - Expert Course TA 3'13"85:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krEmdpmUwEs

The hardest thing to learn was the wall bounce that happens at 0:38, I originally was doing it after exiting pit lane which is the faster route (you can also do the pit stop skip in Expert course just like Beginner course, and its much easier on this track) but it was really hard to get consistent at, while this method of doing the wall bounce drift from the left side of the track worked most of the time so I stuck with this one instead.
Doing it on the second lap feels harder because you enter at a different speed than the one from the first lap and after pulling it off correctly on the second lap nerves would kick in since thats like the final big obstacle for me.

I only made 1 mistake in this run which happened in the second lap and it thankfully didn't cost me as much time as I expected at the moment, I could probably continue playing till I got a perfect run but I don't wanna go through that again hahah

[Bart]

Been really busy but to unwind before bed I've been playing Sega Rally using Mednafen (great emulator!). Someday I'd love to get ElSemi's Model 2 emulator working on my machine but I've never had any luck. If I had the time to spare, I would love to try to get Model 2 emulation working in Supermodel but ElSemi is brilliant and the amount of effort he put into it was enormous. Will be some time before anyone duplicates that.

I'm still not very good but I had a successful run on the Forest Course last night:

Spectator Cam
Chase/Cockpit Cams

Any tips for improving my driving would be much appreciated

[fefor]

I think the only thing left for the model 2 emulator to be perfect is if the Sega Rally AI were to be fixed (the opponent cars keep crashing into invisible objects out of nowhere).

Also nice driving Bart! as for the tips I think that you can do most of the starting section of that stage in an almost straight line (or at least in the arcade version it was the optimal racing line) and then take the first two easy right turns while cutting deep through the grass and same with the first easy left. A while ago I found this channel that has several time attack videos for every version of the game. I use it for reference when I wanna learn something a lot of the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PvzubLqWHE

PS: The replay music for that version is so damn good

Edit: another great example of racing line is this video by CUREPUNK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4wpIDNCiSA where you can see how the car gets very close to the wall in the first straight but he still does minimal movement then drives all through the grass. The other tricks I always wanted to learn was the fast turn at the tunnel, seems that you gotta be very close to the wall on the right then start the turn early, but never managed to pull it off this cleanly. Also the wall crash and bounce at the hairpin seems to be fast but never attempted it myself.

[Bart]

Good tips! I'll try that. Where I struggle most are the K and hairpin turns. Only way I've found to get through those is to downshift and let off and then tap the accelerator. Took me forever to figure out that the hairpin requires downshifting twice.

I've always found the whole downshifting mechanic kind of weird. You can't do that in a real car! You'd blow out the engine at those speeds. But I don't know enough about racing or cars to offer a more realistic alternative