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so let me get this straight....

Postby i3corejonny » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:43 am

so even if a laptop or desktop has direct x11, a high ghz , supports opengl2.1and shading language v1.2 and over but has a low or no graphics card at all ...supermodel will not run properly ????


im guessing it heavily relies on a modern graphics card to run it at 60 fps...
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Re: so let me get this straight....

Postby hectic » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:48 am

Yes.
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Re: so let me get this straight....

Postby Bart » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:26 pm

Have you posted the output of 'supermodel -print-gl-info' or pasted an error.log file from a game session? If you want better answers, you need to provide more information.
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Re: so let me get this straight....

Postby orimarc » Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:30 pm

Well, if you want to render lots of polygons and lots of textures (and don't forget about anti-aliasing, bump mapping, triple buffering and complicated word describing thingys) that's what a Graphics card is for.
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Re: so let me get this straight....

Postby i3corejonny » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:15 am

Supermodel v0.2a Error Log
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Started as:
argv[0] = supermodel.exe
argv[1] = D:\PC game downloads\SEGA MODEL 3\supamodelv2,0\roms\swtrilgy.zip
argv[2] = -ppc-frequency=33
argv[3] = -res=800,600
argv[4] = -fullscreen
argv[5] = -show-fps
argv[6] = -frag-shader=Fragment_NoSpotlight.glsl

OpenGL information:
Vendor: Intel
Renderer: Intel(R) HD Graphics
Version: 2.1.0 - Build 8.15.10.2104
Shading Language Version: 1.20 - Intel Build 8.15.10.2104
Maximum Vertex Array Size: 1024 vertices
Maximum Texture Size: 4096 texels
Maximum Vertex Attributes: 16
Maximum Vertex Uniforms: 512

Program settings:
XResolution = 800
YResolution = 600
FullScreen = 1
Throttle = 1
ShowFrameRate = 1
InputSystem = dinput
FlipStereo = 0
DirectInputConstForceMax = 100
DirectInputSelfCenterMax = 100
DirectInputFrictionMax = 100
DirectInputVibrateMax = 100
XInputConstForceThreshold = 30
XInputConstForceMax = 100
XInputVibrateMax = 100
MultiThreaded = 1
PowerPCFrequency = 33
EmulateSound = 1
EmulateDSB = 1
SoundVolume = 100
MusicVolume = 100
ForceFeedback = 0
VertexShader =
FragmentShader = Fragment_NoSpotlight.glsl

Audio device information:
Frequency: 44100
Channels: 2
Sample Format: 32784

Static vertex buffer size: 61.42 MB
Dynamic vertex buffer size: 5.62 MB
Program terminated normally.
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Re: so let me get this straight....

Postby Bart » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:04 am

Intel graphics: there's your problem. Intel GPUs have poor performance and are not designed for gaming or heavy 3D graphics. Although Supermodel requires OpenGL 2.1 and GLSL 1.2, if a graphics card only supports those, it is not likely to run Supermodel at full speed -- those are the API requirements and are the bare minimum required to run Supermodel.
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Re: so let me get this straight....

Postby hectic » Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:22 pm

You asked the same question here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=129

EDIT: and here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=160&p=1258#p1258

I don't want to come across unhelpful, but no matter how many different ways you ask the same question, the response will still remain the same. I appreciate that it's frustrating for you - and probably more than a little disappointing. But the answer to your fundamental question of 'these are my specs, what can I do to make Supermodel run better?' is you need a dedicated GPU.
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Re: so let me get this straight....

Postby i3corejonny » Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:43 pm

arg i know... :( thankfully Christmas is not to far away now i guess i can hold out for a lil longer its just i so want to play these games at home. they've been my life at the amusements.... its annoying how demul, dolphin and model2 runs flawlessly but supermodel wont play at all on my shitty Intel laptop.*sigh* i knew it was gunna be a bad idea getting the cheapest laptop i could find.... :/
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Re: so let me get this straight....

Postby karadaniano » Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:19 pm

i3corejonny wrote:arg i know... :( thankfully Christmas is not to far away now i guess i can hold out for a lil longer its just i so want to play these games at home. they've been my life at the amusements.... its annoying how demul, dolphin and model2 runs flawlessly but supermodel wont play at all on my shitty Intel laptop.*sigh* i knew it was gunna be a bad idea getting the cheapest laptop i could find.... :/


well, the emulators you mention are gpu demanding
did you try using the no_spot shader?
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Re: so let me get this straight....

Postby i3corejonny » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:38 am

karadaniano wrote:
i3corejonny wrote:arg i know... :( thankfully Christmas is not to far away now i guess i can hold out for a lil longer its just i so want to play these games at home. they've been my life at the amusements.... its annoying how demul, dolphin and model2 runs flawlessly but supermodel wont play at all on my shitty Intel laptop.*sigh* i knew it was gunna be a bad idea getting the cheapest laptop i could find.... :/


well, the emulators you mention are gpu demanding
did you try using the no_spot shader?


i try but it constantly comes up with error message saying "ignoring fragshader.gsl fragment.no.spotlight.gsl "
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