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Recommended hardware

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:57 am
by Ian
Had some people recently contact me about supermodel running slow on their hardware ..
And they are running 10+ year old hardware. You wouldn't own a phone that old, it would be verging on useless lol. I know PC hardware can be expensive but you don't need to spend a fortune to get reasonable performance.

Currently we don't have anything resembling minimum system requirements for supermodel.

I'm using a i7 3.4 ghz cpu, and a gtx 960. GTX 960 was a lower end card when I bought it but they are very cheap now. £30-40 off ebay and performance is great in supermodel. You should comfortably be able to run 2 instances at the same time at 1080p.

I know the latest intel GPUs (laptop) should also give great performance with supermodel, with the triangle renderer, at least. I don't know how well they will run with quad rendering.

I'd recommend against any AMD gpu, because the drivers suck and performance is downright horrible. I was testing with a WX 7100 pro card I think which is a highish end gpu, and performance was a nightmare. Where as on a cheap integrated intel you can bust out 60fps. Right now AMD are just not even remotely competitive at all which is a shame. Older driver versions apparently work better, but I would never recommend people downgrade their drivers just to use 1 app. It doesn't make sense.

Anyway, I'd be interested to know what FPS people get, especially with lower end h/w. We might be able to establish something of a minimum system requirements :)

Re: Recommended hardware

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:01 am
by zuppa_di_pesce
Hay Ian, do you believe me? I was wondering same questions in theese days! :lol: ;)
I was thinking to open a thread on this forum, where to post all of our "benchmarks"!!! ;)

So... I think I can start by myself! :P When I'll come back home, I'll post in this thread my specs.

Would be nice to "format" the results as:
* CPU model [insert here if: stock or OverClocked]
* RAM
* GPU model
* OperativeSystem [insert here if: 32bit or 64bit]
* SuperModel3 release version
* SuperModel3 OperativeSystem type [insert here if: Windows native or Linux native or Linux via WINE (so, Windows version) or macOS]
* GAME (provided as romname.zip)
* FPS (provided by -show-fps)
* Standardized resolution is 1920x1080 (with -window)
* Tell if -new3d or -legacy3d
* post commandline start options

What do yout hink?
Would be nice to build up such a "databse" (sort of)! :D :D :D

Re: Recommended hardware

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:56 am
by Ian
yeah sounds reasonable
need to know if quad rendering is on, because that can make a big difference to the fps

Re: Recommended hardware

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:05 pm
by Bart
This will be interesting to see! I'm also quite surprised at the older hardware being used. Is this primarily an issue outside of the US and UK? The only people I know operating 5-10 year old hardware are non-gamers like my father.

Also, just a note: it's Supermodel, capital 'S', lowercase 'm', no '3'. Not "SuperModel" or "SuperModel3" ;)

Re: Recommended hardware

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:14 pm
by ferrarifan
I have a I5-4670K at 3.4 ghz with a GTX 1060 3 GB. Mind you I have a 7-year-old Haswell CPU which came out in 2013 so it gets the job done :) I know the 4th gen i5 might sound obsolete but pretty much all the rest of the arcade emulators that I run including Supermodel and Demul(Only for Arcade purposes only) running flawlessly on my system :)

I'm very satisfied with it's results. Very good CPU especially for a great affordable price you can buy it used today

Re: Recommended hardware

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:46 pm
by zuppa_di_pesce
Bart wrote:Also, just a note: it's Supermodel, capital 'S', lowercase 'm', no '3'. Not "SuperModel" or "SuperModel3" ;)
;)

Re: Recommended hardware

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:12 pm
by michaelg1234
I have a AMD ryzen 5/Vega8 /R560X Hybrid laptop and i get 35-50fps in Scud race with triangle rendering, quad rendering is slow.

Re: Recommended hardware

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:06 am
by SegaLover2020
I7 7700hq, 16GB, intel 630 + GTX1050

The intel 630 was a surprise with updated drivers and better opengl support. I can run every game at full speed even with just 2,6ghz maximum processor speed. This, obviously, with triangles because switching to quads brings a lot of lag.

Re: Recommended hardware

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:26 am
by zuppa_di_pesce
  • CPU> AMD Ryzen 7 1700 [stock]
  • RAM> 2*8G DDR4-2667
  • GPU> GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER
  • OS> ArchLinux (5.8.8-arch1-1)
  • Supermodel release> svn-r823 (64bit)
  • Supermodel version> Linux native
  • GAME> srally2.zip
  • 1080p> yes
  • FPS (1080p)> 62
  • 2160p> yes
  • FPS (2160p)> 62
  • new3d> yes
  • quad-rendering> yes
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penGL information:

  Vendor                   : NVIDIA Corporation
  Renderer                 : GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER/PCIe/SSE2
  Version                  : 4.6.0 NVIDIA 450.66
  Shading Language Version : 4.60 NVIDIA
  Maximum Vertex Array Size: 1048576 vertices
  Maximum Texture Size     : 32768 texels
  Maximum Vertex Attributes: 16
  Maximum Vertex Uniforms  : 4096
  Maximum Texture Img Units: 32

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./supermodel -ppc-frequency=100 -gpu-multi-threaded -res=1920,1080 -fullscreen -wide-screen -stretch -no-vsync -new3d -quad-rendering roms/srally2.zip

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supermodel: ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=71b788c1c7814b757c9a73b5ff2657e2c0979200, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, stripped

Re: Recommended hardware

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:29 pm
by Bart
Would be very interesting to disable driver throttling and run un-throttled to see what frame rate it hits. Some systems can hit 60 without any headroom. For example, my laptop can run Supermodel at 800x600 at 60FPS but if I increase the resolution to 1024x768, it drops to 50 or below.