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Re: How to get a Supermodel Network running tutorial

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:55 pm
by icuk7
Japanese internet is pretty fast, not sure how fast but it's certainly good enough for fighting games like Virtua Fighter ESports and Street Fighter V.

Not sure on how they are doing it, but I've been told there are some really strong network programmers working on it. It's an amazing collaboration. I've played the patched version linked in the video, I have to say it's getting really close to the original hardware now! What an amazing emulator Supermodel is. :D

well, 3 player link is now possible! :shock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxwbAyd_F68

Re: How to get a Supermodel Network running tutorial

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:59 pm
by Bart
These are modified versions of Supermodel? Supermodel is a GPL-licensed emulator so if binaries with no source code are being posted anywhere, that's a violation of the license agreement. They must release the source code if they are distributing a modified version of Supermodel.

Re: How to get a Supermodel Network running tutorial

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:33 am
by icuk7
As far as I'm aware, all that's been patched in the version I downloaded is to have the frame rate to run at 57.5fps rather than running at the default 60fps. There's a comparison video showing the speed difference compared to OG hardware, and 57.440 (57.5fps) is nigh on perfect.

I have no idea whether that breaks the license agreement as I'm just a random guy on the internet, but, I'd expect if anything in the source code has been changed in the above videos then they would be happy to share their findings if they were asked to do so. I've posted the links above and someone can ask the uploader if they choose to, it's not a secret as the videos are public. I don't think anything untoward is going on, it's just Supermodel is so good now @57.5fps that even old school Japanese SpikeOut players are impressed and they are spreading the word.

Re: How to get a Supermodel Network running tutorial

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:05 pm
by nuexzz..
haha let's start with the joy of enjoying online games and then continue discussing "the good, the bad and the ugly" obviously if you ask me :lol:

Re: How to get a Supermodel Network running tutorial

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:04 am
by Ian
Bart wrote:These are modified versions of Supermodel? Supermodel is a GPL-licensed emulator so if binaries with no source code are being posted anywhere, that's a violation of the license agreement. They must release the source code if they are distributing a modified version of Supermodel.


I'm pretty sure it's only a violation if they actually distribute the binaries. There is no link for binaries.

Re: How to get a Supermodel Network running tutorial

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:24 am
by PDNEJOH
Ian wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's only a violation if they actually distribute the binaries. There is no link for binaries.


Actually, they did post the binaries. It's on the description of the YT video.

Re: How to get a Supermodel Network running tutorial

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2022 2:23 am
by massaya39
Hello
I am a strong network programmer in Japan.
yes
I own the source code for SVN r882 patched with 57.5Mhz.
Binaries are not open to the public.
If I violate the rules, I apologize here.

I'm sorry

Should I share the source code now?
Will it adapt to the next release? SVN r883 or +

Thank you

Re: How to get a Supermodel Network running tutorial

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2022 5:05 am
by massaya39
Hello
I'm the Japanese who is talking about here
I'm not a super strong network programmer.

Let's talk about the main subject
Me and my team may have violated the GPL agreement.

I am very sorry.

Even if a proceeding is filed, I can only swear that I will not make the same mistake as an apology in the future.

I have the source code with the 57.5Mhz patch on SVN r882.
There is also a diff patch.

Could you adapt to the next version?

I created a sentence by automatic translation.

My post isn't reflected for some reason.
This is my second post, I hope it works.

I was able to analyze the source code quite a bit.
From the conclusion
I think that link play via the Internet will output a full frame if data of about 55,000 bytes to 60,000 bytes can be looped in 1 tram 17ms.

Thank you.

Re: How to get a Supermodel Network running tutorial

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2022 8:37 pm
by Bart
massaya39 wrote:Hello
I am a strong network programmer in Japan.
yes
I own the source code for SVN r882 patched with 57.5Mhz.
Binaries are not open to the public.
If I violate the rules, I apologize here.

I'm sorry

Should I share the source code now?
Will it adapt to the next release? SVN r883 or +

Thank you


Hello and thank you for joining us here. :)

Don't worry -- I am not upset. I am very happy to see people experimenting with SUPERMODEL, enjoying it, and sharing their creations. I just want to make sure that SUPERMODEL and all its derivatives remain open to everyone. If you are posting a binary created from modified source code, the source code should also be accessible somewhere. You can post it separately or include it with the binary distribution. It can also be a diff patch. Also, please include the LICENSE.txt file and information about the location of the modified source code or diff patches.

If you would like us to incorporate the 57.5 Hz patch into SUPERMODEL, let me know. I can take a look at it. I think we were considering such a feature before but it introduced some small issues (e.g., stuttering in the frame rate).

Thank you,

Bart

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自動翻訳されたテキスト:

こんにちは、ここにご参加いただきありがとうございます。 :)

心配しないでください-私は動揺していません。 人々がスーパーモデルを試し、楽しんで、彼らの作品を共有しているのを見るのはとてもうれしいです。 Supermodelとそのすべての派生物がすべての人に開かれたままであることを確認したいだけです。 変更されたソースコードから作成されたバイナリを投稿する場合は、どこかでソースコードにもアクセスできる必要があります。 個別に投稿することも、バイナリディストリビューションに含めることもできます。 差分パッチにすることもできます。 また、LICENSE.txtファイルと、変更されたソースコードまたはdiffパッチの場所に関する情報を含めてください。

57.5 HzパッチをSupermodelに組み込みたい場合は、お知らせください。 私はそれを見ることができます。 以前はそのような機能を検討していたと思いますが、いくつかの小さな問題が発生しました(フレームレートの途切れなど)。

ありがとうございました、

Bart

Re: How to get a Supermodel Network running tutorial

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:33 pm
by massaya39
to Administer

Thank you for your reply.

I will briefly state things.

Thank you <3
The Supermodel3 emulator excites us.
It's a great job!

I will apply for the 57.5hz patch version by regular procedure.
I have a lot to talk about the Supermodel 3 Emulator.

See you soon.

thanks :)