Neutral shift not working with G25/27!??

[TheSupermodel3]

Hi guys!!

I tried to set neutral shift in supermodel.ini but it is not working!

here setting of my G27 H shifter:
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; Manual transmission
InputGearShift1 = "KEY_Q,JOY1_BUTTON9"
InputGearShift2 = "KEY_W,JOY1_BUTTON10"
InputGearShift3 = "KEY_E,JOY1_BUTTON11"
InputGearShift4 = "KEY_R,JOY1_BUTTON12"
InputGearShiftN = "KEY_T"
InputGearShiftUp = "NONE" ; sequential shift up
InputGearShiftDown = "NONE" ; sequential shift down



I tried to do this: InputGearShiftN = "KEY_T,JOY1_BUTTON0" (in xpadder G27 propriety ,neutral shift= BUTTON0!)

...but it is not working


Is it necessary to press something or what?

Neutral shift is working good for Sega rally in nebulamodel2 emulator v1.0 without pressing nothing!

You can read this in the emulator.ini of M2emulator:


[Input]
XInput=0 ;Enable support for Xbox360 compatible devices
EnableFF=1 ;Enable Force Feedback Effects
HoldGears=1 ;Set to 1 to return to Neutral in driving games when the gear shift key is released
UseRawInput=0 ;Read mouse through Rawinput, allowing 2 mice
RawDevP1=0 ;Assign specific RawInput devices to players. If you have more than 2 mice
RawDevP2=1 ;set which one is assigned to each player (0-based)

Can you help me please guys?

[Bart]

Is it necessary to press something or what?

Well yeah, of course. It's necessary to press the neutral button you mapped. Press button 0 (whatever it is) or 'T' and see what happens. Also, paste your config file (yes, the whole thing) here so I can verify you didn't do something wrong.

[TheSupermodel3]

Is it necessary to press something or what?

Well yeah, of course. It's necessary to press the neutral button you mapped. Press button 0 (whatever it is) or 'T' and see what happens. Also, paste your config file (yes, the whole thing) here so I can verify you didn't do something wrong.

Lol!i posted you the .ini from M2emulator and inside,you can read this line:"

" HoldGears=1 ;Set to 1 to return to Neutral in driving games when the gear shift key is released"

Neutral shift is working good for Sega rally1 in nebulamodel2 emulator v1.0 without pressing or mapping nothing!
I think it is possible with a specifique command line,isnt it?

You dont understand me,i would like to press nothing (like a real H shifter car you know!)

first gear-----neutral-----second----neutral----third...etc
I think Elsemi done it with a script or something like that!
Thanks a lot Bart.

[Bart]

Why do you need neutral anyway? Is it used in gameplay? I only provided it for the sake of completeness.

We used to have sticky gears, where it was neutral by default and if you pressed the same gear button a second time, you'd go to neutral (and, if you switched away into the neutral position on a gearbox, it would deselect all gears and go to neutral) but this would cause problems on gearboxes with glitchy switches.

So now neutral is mapped to a button, which is what I was told ElSemi's emulator does.

You might be able to combine ! and + so that neutral is selected when none of the other gears are. I'm not sure if Nik's parser can handle that combination but it's worth a try:

InputGearShift1 = "KEY_Q"
InputGearShift2 = "KEY_W"
InputGearShift3 = "KEY_E"
InputGearShift4 = "KEY_R"
InputGearShiftN = "!KEY_Q+!KEY_W+!KEY_E+!KEY_R"

As soon as you let go of one of the gear buttons, it will end up in neutral. Not quite sticky gears, but close, and maybe what you want.

[Groni]

InputGearShift1 = "KEY_Q"
InputGearShift2 = "KEY_W"
InputGearShift3 = "KEY_E"
InputGearShift4 = "KEY_R"
InputGearShiftN = "!KEY_Q+!KEY_W+!KEY_E+!KEY_R"

As soon as you let go of one of the gear buttons, it will end up in neutral. Not quite sticky gears, but close, and maybe what you want.

This would be a perfect Solution even for the Gearbox I will try it later to see if that works

[nikdd]

I'm not sure if Nik's parser can handle that combination but it's worth a try:

InputGearShift1 = "KEY_Q"
InputGearShift2 = "KEY_W"
InputGearShift3 = "KEY_E"
InputGearShift4 = "KEY_R"
InputGearShiftN = "!KEY_Q+!KEY_W+!KEY_E+!KEY_R"

Hi Bart,

Yes, the parser will handle this no problem. This will cause InputGearShiftN to be active whenever none of the other inputs are active, which I think is what you wanted.

Cheers, Nik.

[isamu]

This is indeed what the OP as well as myself wants so thank you Bart for the heads up on that. Great solution for those of us with true H-Gated shifters

[TheSupermodel3]

I'm not sure if Nik's parser can handle that combination but it's worth a try:

InputGearShift1 = "KEY_Q"
InputGearShift2 = "KEY_W"
InputGearShift3 = "KEY_E"
InputGearShift4 = "KEY_R"
InputGearShiftN = "!KEY_Q+!KEY_W+!KEY_E+!KEY_R"

Hi Bart,

Yes, the parser will handle this no problem. This will cause InputGearShiftN to be active whenever none of the other inputs are active, which I think is what you wanted.

Cheers, Nik.

I wrote this : InputGearShiftN = "!KEY_Q+!KEY_W+!KEY_E+!KEY_R" but not working perfect!

Is it realy the exact thing to write???

When i begin a race with manual transmission ,it's starting with neutral("N")...but when a gear is done ,the"N" disappears!

Thanks guys!

[nikdd]

I wrote this : InputGearShiftN = "!KEY_Q+!KEY_W+!KEY_E+!KEY_R" but not working perfect!

Is it realy the exact thing to write???

This is the correct thing to write as far as the input parser is concerned. It means InputGearShiftN will be active whenever none of the keys are pressed, ie the gear will be neutral unless you are holding down one of Q, W, E, R.

Whether that's what you want or not, I don't know !? Perhaps you could explain again what you are trying to achieve?

Thanks, Nik.

[Ganondorf]

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