Now that Model 3's been emulated, what's left...?

[i3corejonny]

I wish there was a way to play Wild Riders at home.

dude "wild riders" is on DEMUL 0.5.6 naomi2 list. its fully playable ....but i cant play it because my lappy sucks :L

[Nick1984]

Until Virtua Fighter 3 has the bugs fixed Model 3 is far from being emulated.

[RetroRepair]

I agree, Model 3 is far from emulated yet. It's shaping up very nicely and for the most part is working great but there's a lot more to do yet.

You'd be surprised how many older systems don't work correctly in MAME yet either. For example, Ridge Racer 2 is completely missing lighting effects which turn day to night gradually with sunsets etc. Time Crisis plays up to the helicopter in the tower and you can't get past it. Going back further, the Q Sound effect on the CPS2 driver is only simulated in MAME at the moment, the original code is now available but not yet implimented. There are many much older games which either don't work properly or at all in some cases. Mortal Kombat 4 is very buggy etc, etc.

Most of the games discussed in this thread are way too new to be ethicly emulated but that's not the correct term for most of them.

Chihiro = Xbox 1 hardware = x86
Lindenberg = PC
Taito Type X = PC

None of these will be emulated for decades if at all. Most are hacked to run on a normal PC though since that's really what they ran on in the first place. Some guys over on the Assembler forums are even looking at getting Chihiro games running on a retail xbox (with ram upgrades) since the motherboard on a Chihiro is essentially no different from a retail xbox. Just the bios, the amount of ram and the drive type differs.

3)Finally I just want to see true, proper force feedback support in MAME. There are soooo many great driving games in MAME's catalog that it seems like they're just going to waste without the ability to play them properly FFB adds so much to the enjoyment of a driving game. I hardly ever play any racing games in MAME because of this. The only exception is a recent bout with Ridge Racer 1 and 2 recently. But FFB is definitely missed there. Howard Castro is working on MameHooker that should eventually allow us to experience force feedback in MAME in a sort of rudimentary way, so that is at least promising

This is what I'm really waiting for next. Only trouble is the number of games which don't have outputs hooked up. Virtua Racing, Rave Racer or San Francisco Rush would be awesome with FFB but I doubt they'll be hooked up any time soon, if at all.

[isamu]

I agree, Model 3 is far from emulated yet. It's shaping up very nicely and for the most part is working great but there's a lot more to do yet.

You'd be surprised how many older systems don't work correctly in MAME yet either. For example, Ridge Racer 2 is completely missing lighting effects which turn day to night gradually with sunsets etc. Time Crisis plays up to the helicopter in the tower and you can't get past it. Going back further, the Q Sound effect on the CPS2 driver is only simulated in MAME at the moment, the original code is now available but not yet implimented. There are many much older games which either don't work properly or at all in some cases. Mortal Kombat 4 is very buggy etc, etc.

Most of the games discussed in this thread are way too new to be ethicly emulated but that's not the correct term for most of them.

Chihiro = Xbox 1 hardware = x86
Lindenberg = PC
Taito Type X = PC

None of these will be emulated for decades if at all. Most are hacked to run on a normal PC though since that's really what they ran on in the first place. Some guys over on the Assembler forums are even looking at getting Chihiro games running on a retail xbox (with ram upgrades) since the motherboard on a Chihiro is essentially no different from a retail xbox. Just the bios, the amount of ram and the drive type differs.

3)Finally I just want to see true, proper force feedback support in MAME. There are soooo many great driving games in MAME's catalog that it seems like they're just going to waste without the ability to play them properly FFB adds so much to the enjoyment of a driving game. I hardly ever play any racing games in MAME because of this. The only exception is a recent bout with Ridge Racer 1 and 2 recently. But FFB is definitely missed there. Howard Castro is working on MameHooker that should eventually allow us to experience force feedback in MAME in a sort of rudimentary way, so that is at least promising

This is what I'm really waiting for next. Only trouble is the number of games which don't have outputs hooked up. Virtua Racing, Rave Racer or San Francisco Rush would be awesome with FFB but I doubt they'll be hooked up any time soon, if at all.

Hello Retro and good post. Quick question man regarding this comment....

Most are hacked to run on a normal PC though since that's really what they ran on in the first place.

....can you verify whether or not anyone has been able to successfully hack the Chihiro board, so that its games can run on a normal PC? If so, are they running it on a Windows OS? If yes, then can you erm...point me in the right direction? I'd buy an OutRun 2SP CD-Rom in a heartbeat if I could get it to run on my machine.

[MrThunderwing]

Until Virtua Fighter 3 has the bugs fixed Model 3 is far from being emulated.

I was over-generalising a bit in the OP. The three Model 3 games that I most wanted to play, by pure happy coincidence, happen to be the games that seem to work the best in Supermodel and look the most arcade accurate, so I tend to forget about the others that aren't as well emulated yet, but yeah you're right - there's still a way to go yet.

Most of the games discussed in this thread are way too new to be ethicly emulated but that's not the correct term for most of them.

Good point, I suppose we don't want to blur the distinction between emulation and outright piracy. I'd love to be able to play Chase HQ 2 at home, but I'd like to do it the correct way (i.e. through a home conversion from Taito), so if that doesn't happen I'll just accept it, instead of hoping that some hacked version of a ROM turns up on a dodgy website and further dents the already clinging-on-by-the-skin-of-it's-teeth arcade industry.

[RetroRepair]

....can you verify whether or not anyone has been able to successfully hack the Chihiro board, so that its games can run on a normal PC? If so, are they running it on a Windows OS? If yes, then can you erm...point me in the right direction? I'd buy an OutRun 2SP CD-Rom in a heartbeat if I could get it to run on my machine.

There is an xbox "emulator" project called CXBX which has been ongoing for a few years on and off which I believe is more of an environment for running xbe files which in theory could handle chihiro games but afaik, it can barely even run xbox games at the moment.

The other way people have been exploring is modified xbox consoles with more ram on board though they have not managed to get all that far yet.

[isamu]

I see, thanks

[Trojan X]

I see, thanks

I feel you... Disappointing, but what can you do. You and I do not have the knowledge so we can take the project on board. I still can't believe that there is no way for us to play a perfect version of Virtua Cop 3, which is arguably the best light gun shooting game of all time. So sad...

[joeblade]

Would absolutely love planet harriers emulated....I've never played it and probably never will...

[GamerGee]

wow this is a good read. Ill add in all of he intial D's emulated and I'm happy. HotD 4 as well. But speaking of arcade hardware being a PC, most of them run dongles like H2overdrive.. Oh god.. if that were to be emulated... I cant speak on that one.. That would be a great game on XBLA or PSN but the company doesnt wanna make a home version of such an amazing game.. Why not? And their carde unit runs on a Dell.. just a regular dell.. no modifed anything..lol