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Star Wars Trilogy running too slow or too fast.

Postby SWT » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:58 pm

I'm tiring to run Star Wars trilogy on a newer PC Win 10. I try different versions of supermodel some are too fast with not color to the light sabers in the intro and one has good color but runs too slow. Can't seem to find the sweet spot where is works correctly. Is there a config setting to adjust the speed? Thanks for any info you can provide.
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Re: Star Wars Trilogy running too slow or too fast.

Postby Bart » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:31 am

SWT wrote:I'm tiring to run Star Wars trilogy on a newer PC Win 10. I try different versions of supermodel some are too fast with not color to the light sabers in the intro and one has good color but runs too slow. Can't seem to find the sweet spot where is works correctly. Is there a config setting to adjust the speed? Thanks for any info you can provide.


If the light saber colors are bad, it sounds like you are using an old version of Supermodel. Avoid the one on the web page. There is a thread here with recent builds posted or you can build yourself to stay up to date.
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Re: Star Wars Trilogy running too slow or too fast.

Postby SWT » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:14 pm

Thanks Bart! I have to go back to r727 to get the correct speed but sound is glitchy/staticy. I'm at the beginning of the learning curve and searches for this problem seem to be difficult to find. All Versions after r727 play slow. The latest r830 has good sound so far but just slow mo through the whole game. Is there a setting I can adjust the speed with? I'm using Retrobat 3.1 Thanks for helping!
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Re: Star Wars Trilogy running too slow or too fast.

Postby Bart » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:43 pm

SWT wrote:Thanks Bart! I have to go back to r727 to get the correct speed but sound is glitchy/staticy. I'm at the beginning of the learning curve and searches for this problem seem to be difficult to find. All Versions after r727 play slow. The latest r830 has good sound so far but just slow mo through the whole game. Is there a setting I can adjust the speed with? I'm using Retrobat 3.1 Thanks for helping!


What sort of a system are you running on? Can you try running with the legacy engine to see it improves things? I don't know about Retrobat but if you launch it from the command line, try adding the -legacy3d option.
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Re: Star Wars Trilogy running too slow or too fast.

Postby SWT » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:42 pm

Desktop Intel i5 6600k CPU 3.5 GHz, 16 GB Ram, Radeon R7 200 video card. Definitely not a gaming computer but I wanted to see how the games play on it and start learning all this. I'm going to purchase a dedicated mini or maybe a better desk top and build a custom sit down Atari Star Wars cab for it. These Sega games are an absolute must for me, so I'm just trying to sort it all out.

I did just try the r837 and the speed and saber color is good now. I was using Retobat but just downloaded Launchbox which is what it's working on right now. I do get slow mo on the trench run though. I'm guessing my video card is having trouble keeping up on this section?
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Re: Star Wars Trilogy running too slow or too fast.

Postby kurvalak » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:09 pm

Same here. The game is running fine in the first two parts of the first stage, but the trenches get slow motion. I have a i3-7100 3.9 GHz with Radeon HD 7950. 3a 845.
I did try to slower the PowerPC to 25, but it creates glitches.
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Re: Star Wars Trilogy running too slow or too fast.

Postby rokfpoewrkcpoqwkcp » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:02 am

This is simply the known AMD driver bug issue.
AMD cards suffer slowdown from r733 onwards, the drivers handling of OpenGL is crap, AMD don't care.

Your options are,

1. Use -legacy3d. The way legacy3d renders transparency means you won't hit the bug.(It also fixes the missing textures near the very end of Star Wars.)
2. Use Ubuntu. The official AMD Ubuntu driver works properly. :roll: *** EDIT. See post below ***
3. Buy Nvidia. Move on with your life.
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Re: Star Wars Trilogy running too slow or too fast.

Postby rokfpoewrkcpoqwkcp » Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:37 pm

rokfpoewrkcpoqwkcp wrote:2. Use Ubuntu. The official AMD Ubuntu driver works properly. :roll:


Turns out Ubuntu struggles with "-wide-screen". The screen goes black for a couple of seconds at certain points in some games. It may affect all games, I haven't tried many. I prefer 4:3, it' how God/Sega intended :D.
I'm guessing the Ubuntu AMD driver is just as glitchy as the Windows one.
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